Posts by Brock Talon

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Women are a "stack of bones and a hank of hair" - J.F. Rutherford

by krismalone in

i have heard rumors and anecdotes of j.f.

rutherford calling women "a hank of hair and a stack of bones" but i never thought it was documented.

well thanks to jwfacts i finally found the quote in print.. this j.f.

Brock Talon

When I was in Bethel in the 1980's, I actually heard a different version of that phrase used. I don't remember exactly who it was that said it the first time I heard it, but I believe it was at the breakfast table by one of the GB. What I heard was "Brothers, why are you so interested in chasing a bag of bones and a hank of hair?"

For some reason, everyone laughed. Even the women.

I guess it was an inside joke?

Go figure.

A friend of mine there who played the guitar actually wrote a love song that he called, "My little bag of bones," or something like that.

Now THAT was funny.

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PLACE OF PILGRIMAGE

by Hairtrigger in

it just struck me while reading another post on the forum.

the catholics have numerous shrines all over the world and places of pilgrimage and the mother of them all ... rome.

the muslims have mecca and medina.

Brock Talon

LongHairGal - It was meant to be a facetious comment about the thoughts my younger self had before I applied to go to Bethel. The comment about the "religion" of hedonism and the "holy place" of the Playboy Mansion is a clue.

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PLACE OF PILGRIMAGE

by Hairtrigger in

it just struck me while reading another post on the forum.

the catholics have numerous shrines all over the world and places of pilgrimage and the mother of them all ... rome.

the muslims have mecca and medina.

Brock Talon

Excerpt from Journey to God's House, page 9.

"We Witnesses named our headquarters Bethel, which translates in Hebrew to 'House of God.' Being asked to work there was the ultimate privilege a young Witness could aspire to. There simply was no higher calling for anybody raised in the Jehovah's Witness faith. Every religion has a special holy place which is revered and where its believers plan to make the occasional pilgrimage: Islam has its Mecca, Judaism its Wailing Wall, Catholicism its Vatican, and hedonists the Playboy Mansion.

We Witnesses had Bethel."

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Santa Ana, Calif. News Report: Jehovah's Witness molested 4-5 girls

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag6ftvig9b8.

kacey montoya for channel 5.

Brock Talon

Hey darkspilver - Why not try for 150% accuracy? I mean, what a slouch to only go for 110%. Or maybe you should try for 1,000% accuracy? What about 1 billion % accuracy?

I always find it amusing when someone like you tries to sound smart, but then offers that there is the possibility of having more than one hundred out of one hundred - which is what 100 per cent means.

If you cannot get a grasp on that simple axiomatic concept, the rest of your reasoning will be just as faulty.

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Is it morally wrong to put Watchtower behind?

by Darkknight757 in

with our latest and final run in with the elders, the wife and i had a very long talk about what's next in our life.

do we try to help others see the light as it were concerning watchtower or do we just let it go and move on with our life?

we have made it perfectly clear that we will never go back to watchtower and we are finally happy.

Brock Talon

Is it morally wrong to put on your own oxygen mask first before helping others with theirs during an airplane depressurization emergency?

Is it morally wrong to keep get your loved ones and yourself on a lifeboat on a sinking ship, especially when everyone else is ignoring the ship taking on water?

Is it morally wrong to sweet talk a rabid dog by offering it a treat so it doesn't bite you, so you can get away from it, and then maybe call animal control later?

Take care of yourself and your own first. Worry about everyone else once your head is clear.

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Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

Brock Talon

Loved this post Paul. Good for you brother. I believe more people are out there like your father, only they don't have the guts to say it. Glad you got some sort of closure and/or relief. I'm going to live vicariously through you for the next few minutes now, wishing one of my parents said something like that to me.

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I don't think I will be able to escape the JWs ...

by nevaagain in

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i know i will get a lot of backslash on this forum for saying this, but as it looks like, i won't ever be able to escape the jws.

i have been a born in, third generation jw and awoken in one way or another (i joined this forum 15 years ago) for a very long time.

but i have adapted to the jw lifestyle to a point where it does not bother me anymore.

Brock Talon

This is the saddest post I have read in a very long time. I won't give you "backlash" about it because it's your life and you should live it how you want to.

Still, maybe you should think of renaming your avatar to something like "foreva again"...

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My sources say Jr brown has died

by poopie in

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end of era.

Brock Talon

My favorite JR Brown story happened while I was at Bethel in the early 1980's. He was giving a talk that was railing against "Music that debases" and told how "vulgar today's music is" and used a song by Donna Summer as an example. It was a relatively older song by that time called "Love to Love you Baby", but he used it anyway as an example.

He went on to say about it: "With all that oohing and aahing, moaning and groaning, brothers and sisters that song is actually simulated orgasm!"

When the crowd erupted from his statement, he added to a bigger eruption: "Children, if you don't know what that means, ask your parents!"

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Man - I wish I had remembered that story when I wrote my book on Bethel... I would have put it in there somewhere.

-Brock Talon

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Did Crisis of Conscience find a market or did it lumber along until the copies ran out?

by TerryWalstrom in

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curiosity.i would think c of c was the grand-daddy of all the ex-jw books.is there any way to know for sure how many copies sold?

over what span of time before the 1st edition ended?

why did it peter out of print if it was a perennial seller?today, every tom, dick, and jasper has self-published the bleeding wound, 1st person singular, true confessional version of their own fall from grace.

Brock Talon

Nathan Natas,

For paperbacks, the royalties vary by country, but in the U.S. it's a little over $3. For Kindle, it's about $3.50.

And by the way, the numbers I gave you earlier are for both books together, not just one.

I use the Amazon tool that estimates what price is best for selling a book. Pricing is an interesting thing: if you are too low or too high, your sales are affected. Too high and of course you discourage people, but too low and the perception can be it has little value and thus ignored. For Kindle unlimited, since people can read unlimited books for one price, they often skip cheap or free books because they want to get a "value" for their monthly subscription. So, you have to find the right prices for both printed and digital book formats in order to get the most sales.

For me, sales means eyes, ears and ultimately, hearts.

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

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update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

Brock Talon

I am very sad to hear about this. Mouthy was a very nice person who was one of the ones that welcomed me and treated me properly when I first started posting. She was a class act all the way.